Hey there redsquare folks Im new to the forum and I'm looking for advice or constructive cridasism and and yes Im sorry but i can't spell. I am the proud owner of a 1962 wheel horse with a 8hp kholer and a three speed transaxle i belive its a model 802. I use the little brut to move my scraping trailer around the yard unfortunaly my transaxle is leting go.I was wondering if any one out there has rebuilt one of these badboys.If so how hard is it ,are there parts avalibe and if so were,or should i just consult my machinest friend.Also I found a Raider 10 8speed transaxle for sale it has the drive pully on the correct side for my aplication and it looks as thou it will bolt directly to what I have with little modifecation. Does any one know if its posible if so i would just love to take it a install the 8speed instead.If anyone can help it would be muck appreceated thanks for your time I hope to hear from some of you.

Poodle!

The first 8 hp model didn't show up 'til '64. Could be you have a '62 that has been repowered though.

If you can, post some pics so we can tell which model you do have. Someone on here can help you out for sure.

Poodle! are you sure its an 8 hp? whats the engine model #?

Cheers Duke

To answer your question yes and no, the raider trans will fit, but you will have to do alittle work to make the hi-low shifter fit, the trans is not hard to repair but sometimes the cost is more than buying a used one, depending on what is wrong with it.
Post so pic's if you could.
Also where are you located, someone here may be able to help you out.
And Welcome

Ditto on what Kelly said, just want to add, before you go in, get the Mechanical Transmission Repair Manual part number 492-4004. About ten bucks if you buy the paper version, I think it's free for download at https://homeownersolutions.toro.com/portal/server.pt?

They are real easy to work on, but there are a couple of tips in the manual which can save some real aggravation.

Many tractors have been converted from 3 to 6 speed, mostly just need the shorter plate atop the tunnel to make room for the second shifter.

"Full sized" round hood 6/8 speed conversions require one hole for the high - low range shifter to be drilled in the bottom of the under-seat toolbox. If the transaxle has a top mounted dipstick, you can install a socket head pipe plug and grind it flush with the transmission case. Oil can then be checked and filled through the plug on the left rear corner of the transmission. (just like the original 3 speed)

You'll also need a 4" diameter, 1/2" belt input pulley for the 5/8" shaft. (3 speeds use a 3/4" input shaft) The 1967 factory 6 speeds (867/1067/1267) are the only ones I know of that used a genuine WH pulley fitting that description, and they are close to impossible to find. I have seen a few conversions with the universal stamped steel pullies - just don't use the fractional hp aluminum pullies. The set screw location usually needs moved in the aftermarket pulley so it contacts the short input shaft in the correct location.

Oops, I was thinking straight short/long frame tractors, not about the 802 being a round hood with a different setup atop the transmission.

Once again TT came through!

Hope his head doesn't get too large for his hat....

Thanks guys Ill do my best to get some pics of my little bad red monster posted. So if any one of you that are deff much more knowlageable can see if you reconize the model.But be warned so far all I'v had time to due is put a stack on it and paint the hood.It was a very amautre job!!To anwser kelly's post I'm located in good old Taxachussetts I got the tractor from a friend on Cape Cod who gave it to me.I'v had it for six moths before the untimely breakdown.

Where in MA? I'm just north of you.......


And

Duff

Deerman72 Where in MA? I'm just north of you.......

I'm in Taunton i work in Plymouth and work with the friend that gave it to me. I have some pics on my computer of the little red beast but i cant't get them to load to post ?what I'm doing wrong I have know idea I'v been trying for hours .I'll keep at it until I get what i want!!!!

Take a look here for help with posting pictures.

AND A GREAT BIG TO NYLYON

If it wasn't for him i have nooo idea how long it would have taken to get these pics up but heres a few





A Side View


The bigest reason that i need to rebulid the 3
speed or win that bid on that 8speed man I really want that thing bad!!!


I wish this one came out better but it's the tag on the engine it says it's model# K161 8 hp


A engine side view


engine top view


engine front view



I hope this helps some of you guys. If not tell me what I should snap a pic of for better info. Thanks again all of you guys for looking and the info it's been a huge help any so will be any thing eles you guys recomend I'm sure!!

PS: Like I said it was and is being done buy an amature

You are the lucky owner of a 1961 701 ! ! ! ! !
Whatever you do, don't hack that one up!

I wouldnt put an 8 speed on that tractor - it looks complete and unbutchered so far, I'd keep it origional.

Looks like the ball has come off your gear-stick. Undo the locknut and loosen the set-screw on the front of the boss that houses the stick. The ball will then come up out of the transmission. Its held onto the stick with a roll-pin (5/32 diameter I think?). One side of the ball has a smaller hole - that goes to the front, so the setscrew can locate it.

Fixing this will dramatically improve your shifting!

Also replace the rubber boot that keeps water out of the transmission. $6 from your Toro dealer, dont buy one for $10 + shipping off ebay.

As for the color of the oil, I'd drain it, refill it with a 50/50 mix of engine oil/kerosine, run it around for an hour or so, drain it again and refill with gear lube.

Total investment about $20 and it will probably go for years more...

Absolutely agree with TT.


DO NOT CUT THIS ONE UP



Irrespective of the early, large RS models, this was the first front engine Wheel Horse, and the ONLY front engine to use the closed (no grill bars) hood.

The K-161 S on your tractor is a seven horsepower. The "S" on the tag may look a little like an eight. The S stands for "starter", as in electric starter/generator.