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Sparky- 11-08-2007
So I put a new battery in the 418-A and took it for a spin......in the pitch black. I hit the light switch and nearly jumped outa the seat. The headlights are the brigh-*test*-('") I have ever seen and seemed to shoot out forever into the night. Took a closer look and they say Halogen on the lens. Went out to the shed and checked the GT1142 and the 312-8 and all 3 of my black hoods which all have the sealed beam type headlights but they aint Halogens and I know they arent as bright. Dont know what the cost difference is yet (Halogen verses regular) but when the lights go out in my other tractors I'm thinkin Halogens the way to go.
Mike....brigh-*test*-('") guy on the street rolleyes.gif

kj4kicks- 11-08-2007
Hey Mike, If I remember right, halogens are about 40% brighter than the old style. Nowadays, there's not much difference in price.
Guess you'll need your sunglasses at night!

Eldon.

nylyon- 11-08-2007
I didn't realize that there are 2 different bulbs, certainly something to check especially with snow plowing season coming up... I saw a pair of lights on eBay but they don't mention Halogen. Thanks!

Sparky- 11-08-2007
Yep I just went back and checked those on E-bay but they dont say Halogen.
Eldon...are they also a higher wattage lamp? I know that standards are 35 watts. I hope the charging circuit on the older "non-halogen" tractors can handle the extra draw.
Mike....

nylyon- 11-08-2007
I checked the parts viewer, and my 414 and 416 show the same part. When I look up the 418, it has a different part number for Halogen lights. Maybe you can get a night shot of the difference....

T-Mo- 11-09-2007
I do know on my Deeres the newer tractors have brighter lights than my older ones did, but I'm sure they're not halogens. Maybe I'll get a set of Halogens for the 314-8.

nylyon- 11-09-2007
From what I can find, the Halogen part numbers (Toro) are 110792 which supercedes to 99-7310. The bulbs are about $20 each which is quite high.

Mike, can you tell if there is a mfg number on the back of the bulb? There is probably a GE equiv. which would be about $10.

nylyon- 11-09-2007
Ok, here is a list of the PAR-36 lights which would fit. According to the eBay listing the std. bulb would be a 4406 which are line 3. These are 600 candle power. If we take the ones at 35 watts, that would leave #4, 6 and 7. My guess is #4, but I can't find if it is Halogen or not. FYI, I looked in the 1985 brochure and ONLY the 417's had Halogen, all others including the 416 were regular sealed beam. There is no mention of Halogen in the 1993 catalog, they all just list High Intensity.
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  Part     Design Design Approx.   Filament  Rated
 Number   Volts   Watts  Candle pwr    Type   Life

1  4546     4.7      2.35   6,300       C-2R   100
2  4405     12.8     30     50,000      C-6    100
3  4406     12.8     35     600         C-6    300
4  4411     12.8     35     4,000       C-6    300
5  4414     12.8     18     1,500       C-6    300
6  4415     12.8     35     9,000       C-6    300
7  4415A    12.8     35     7,000       C-6    300
8  4416     12.8     30     35,000      C-6    300  
9  4509     13       100    110,000     C-6    25



**UPDATE** The bulbs in the 416 and 414 are 4411's, still do not say halogen though.

kj4kicks- 11-09-2007
As you can see from Karl's chart, the wattage doesn't really change. So the halogens are a direct swap.
The driving lights that I'm putting on the C520 are 55w each. If you convert it over, they will use 3.9 amps. That circuit has a 10 amp fuse. The tail light draw is minimal. Technically, you could install about 200 watts worth of lights before you would need to rewire anything.
Hope that helps brighten things up !
Eldon.

nylyon- 11-09-2007
The one thing to keep in mind with this is more light = more heat regardless of the wattage, and there is a lot of plastic around those lights.

T-Mo- 11-09-2007
The part number for the headlight on my 314-8 is 102881. I wonder what that would equate to on Karl's chart?

thirdroc17- 11-09-2007
If it can't be done during daylight hours, it doesn't need to be done. That's my motto.

And yes, I break that rule.

My original Wheel Horse, one of the few I no longer have, was used at night a lot. Hey, I was younger then, so I, YES drilled a couple of holes in the hood and mounted some automotive driving lights. Lit up the neighbors yard as well as my own. Wonder they never complained! Probably cause they are just cows. Literally. LOL


Dale

nylyon- 11-09-2007
Part number 102881 = 4411 on the chart that much we know for certain..... Hopefully Mike will be able to read a part number on the lights and we can find out what these mystery bulbs are?

T-Mo- 11-09-2007
QUOTE (nylyon @ November 09, 2007 01:15 pm)
Part number 102881 = 4211 on the chart that much we know for certain..... Hopefully Mike will be able to read a part number on the lights and we can find out what these mystery bulbs are?

4211 or 4411?

nylyon- 11-09-2007
4411, sorry corrected the post


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